You Can’t Kill Me - Part 3

True crime · Documentary

You Can’t Kill Me - Part 3

“A woman recounts her past relationship with a man named Emile, detailing how their initially charming connection quickly escalated into a physically intimate and manipulative dynamic, leading to a life-altering event.”

34 EpisodesTrue crimeDocumentaryDramaIndoor interview settingOutdoor park/field

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Episode 1: The_Fall_S01E03_epis01

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00:00This is our last chance.

00:01So we had to get it right this time.

00:06Six months after the jury failed to reach a verdict,

00:08he faces a retrial for the attempted murder

00:11of his wife Victoria.

00:16He knew how to manipulate me

00:18right to the core.

00:23The jury come back into the room

00:26and my heart rate's gone up.

00:27I couldn't believe the verdict.

Episode 2: The_Fall_S01E03_epis02

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00:00Mrs. Cilliers said she'd changed her mind

00:02about the reason she'd cut away the main

00:04parachute canopy.

00:07She said, before I jumped,

00:08I was terrified.

00:10I'd lost all confidence.

00:12I wasn't happy,

00:13and the parachute didn't feel right.

00:15I didn't think there was anything wrong with it,

00:18and I'm embarrassed to say

00:20I cut away a good parachute.

00:22Whilst I was giving my answers in court,

00:25I was very aware of what I was saying.

00:28Everything was considered.

00:31I was very careful not to give answers

00:33that would directly incriminate Emile.

00:36And I was very, very aware that

00:38I've got to live with the outcome.

00:40I had to deal with the consequences.

00:43And even to this day,

00:45I'm apprehensive talking about it because

00:49he could watch this.

00:50He probably will watch this,

00:51and my heart rate's gone up thinking about

00:54what his reaction could be, would be.

Episode 3: The_Fall_S01E03_epis03

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00:00Vicky, Emile,

00:01this is our chance to see

00:03the early part of their romance.

00:05And Emile is

00:06really textbook

00:08romantic.

00:12So Cam is ready, folks.

00:13Thanks.

00:14I got you.

00:18It was an addiction in a way.

00:20I wanted to go back

00:21because I felt so great

00:22for the first of 12, 18 months.

00:24All I could think about was

00:26doing my best to get our relationship

00:28back to that level.

00:32I think during the day,

00:34there's a very strong denial

00:36that was going on.

00:37I didn't want to face up to it.

00:38It was too much.

00:39And for the most part,

00:40I could get through my days

00:42just ignoring that part of it.

00:44But at night,

00:46all the what ifs start coming in.

00:48It was a an internal fight

00:51between just blacking it out completely,

00:54but also again,

00:55it was that subconscious mind

00:57that would come up.

00:58Actually, he's trying to kill you.

01.59Fuck!

Episode 4: The_Fall_S01E03_epis04

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00:04Okay,

00:04let's uh let's turn over then, please.

00:06Marker.

00:15So after the first trial

00:16went to a hung jury,

00:18and we knew there was going to be a retrial,

00:20we had to pick ourselves back up again.

00:22And

00:23we were determined.

00:24We were absolutely determined.

00:26We knew he was guilty.

00:27and we knew that he had to go away

00:29for a long time.

00:32For the retrial,

00:33we knew we couldn't rely

00:35on Vicky's testimony at all.

00:37From her behavior,

00:39we could tell she was being manipulated

00:41and controlled.

00:44We knew we had to get across to the jury.

00:47She was under the spell of Emile.

00:49I think her

00:50interactions and personality had changed.

00:52She was very acquiescent to him.

00:54And Emile

00:55was a master manipulator.

Episode 5: The_Fall_S01E03_epis05

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00:00dug into his whole life.

00:03His work life, his friends,

00:05his previous partners, his current partners.

00:08Yeah, did you get that for me?

00:10Brilliant.

00:11Your stakes are a lot higher with the second trial.

00:14There's a lot more to prove here.

00:16This is our last chance.

00:17So we had to get it right this time.

00:22We uncovered he had a previous partner, Nicolene,

00:26and she grew up in the same town as he did back in South Africa.

00:29But she was now living in the UK.

00:32Hello.

00:35We approached Nicolene because we just wanted that life story.

00:37We wanted to know,

00:39was he always like this?

00:48Hi.

00:48Hi.

00:49Thanks for coming.

Episode 6: The_Fall_S01E03_epis06

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The video features a woman, identified as Speaker_A, recounting her past relationship with a man named Emile. She describes their initial meeting at a church when she was 13 and he was 16, and how their relationship quickly became physical. She highlights Emile's charming and manipulative nature, recalling his romantic gestures like leaving notes and singing, and elaborate dates. The narrative then shifts to her pregnancy, revealing her naivety about sexual health. The video intercuts her interview with grainy archival footage, showing Emile in various settings and a pregnant woman, presumably the interviewee, on a bed. The overall tone is somber and reflective, hinting at a dark past and the profound impact of this relationship on her life.

The interviewee met Emile at a young age (13) when he was 16.
Their relationship became physical quickly, despite her young age and naivety.
Emile was charming and manipulative, using romantic gestures to create a 'movie-like' romance.
The interviewee became pregnant, highlighting her lack of knowledge about sexual health.
The narrative suggests a significant, possibly traumatic, event related to this relationship, leading to police involvement.

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Speaker_A· The primary interviewee, recounting her past relationship with Emile.Emile· The subject of the interview, a man described as charming and manipulative, involved in a past relationship with Speaker_A.Pregnant Woman (likely Speaker_A)· Archival footage showing a pregnant woman, implied to be the interviewee during her pregnancy.Woman with Baby (likely Speaker_A)· Archival footage showing a woman holding a baby on a swing, implied to be the interviewee after childbirth.

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00:00The Knock on the Door — Introduction to the narrative, with the interviewee recalling the police arriving and asking about Emile.
00:13Meeting Emile: A Young Connection — The interviewee describes meeting Emile at a young age and the rapid progression of their physical relationship.
00:41The Glamorous Illusion — Details of Emile's charming and manipulative romantic gestures, creating a 'movie-like' fantasy.
01:26Naivety and Pregnancy — The revelation of the interviewee's pregnancy and her profound naivety about sexual health at 16.

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00:00Indoor interview settingA woman sits down for an interview, recalling a past event where police arrived at her door asking about 'Emile'. The scene is dark and intimate, setting a serious tone.
00:13Outdoor park/fieldArchival footage of a young man (Emile) on a zip line, smiling at the camera. A timestamp '17. JUN. 2001' is visible.
00:18Indoor interview settingThe interview continues, with Speaker_B asking about the first meeting with Emile. Speaker_A states they met at church when she was 13 and he was 16.
00:29N/A (photo)A still photograph of a young Emile in a school uniform is shown, while Speaker_A describes their relationship becoming serious and physical quickly.
00:36Indoor interview settingSpeaker_A confirms the physical nature of their relationship, emphasizing its rapid development.
00:42Outdoor pool areaArchival footage of Emile standing by a pool, shirtless, smiling. Speaker_A describes him as charming and having 'the gift of the gab'.
00:49Indoor interview settingSpeaker_A continues to describe Emile's romantic gestures, like notes and singing, highlighting his manipulative charm.
00:57Outdoor field/yardArchival footage of Emile walking towards the camera in an outdoor setting, with a dog. Timestamp '14. JUN. 2001'.
01:03Indoor interview settingSpeaker_A details Emile's elaborate romantic gestures for anniversaries, involving roses.
01:09Indoor dining roomArchival footage of a candlelit dinner table, then Emile lighting candles, smiling at the camera. Timestamp '14. JUN. 2001'.
01:16Indoor interview settingSpeaker_A reflects on Emile's attempts to make her life feel like a 'movie', making her feel 'extra special'.
01:26BedroomArchival footage of a pregnant woman (presumably Speaker_A) on a bed, showing her belly and feeling 'baby kicks'. Timestamp '5:41 PM'.
01:33Indoor interview setting, then outdoor parkSpeaker_A reveals her naivety about sexual health and confirms she was 16 when she experienced 'baby kicks'. The video ends with archival footage of a woman with a baby on a swing.

“It's the police. And then there's the, do you know who Emile is here?”

“I was 13, he was 16, I believe. It got quite serious quite quickly and do things we weren't supposed to do.”

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00:02I was making a cup of tea in the kitchen and there's a knock on the door. Open the door.

00:08It's the police.

00:09And then there's the, do you know who Emile is here?

00:12I was like, oh.

00:18When was the first time you remember meeting Emile?

00:23I think it was at church.

00:26I was 13, he was 16, I believe.

00:31It got quite serious quite quickly and do things we weren't supposed to do.

00:36Physical relationship you're talking about?

00:38Yes. Yes, the physical relationship started quite quickly.

00:43He was quite charming at times, like he had the gift of the gab, he knew what to say.

00:50He used to write little notes in my school books, cute little text messages and he'd sing to me.

00:57Emile would make elaborate romantic gestures for our first month anniversary, it was a one long stem red rose. Two months, I had two, three months, I had three.

01:09Then there's things like cooking a meal with a bottle of wine, trying to be all fancy.

01:14It's almost like he's trying to make your life into a movie.

01:19And you're thinking like, this is my life.

01:22It's so glamorous.

01:24So it makes you feel extra special.

01:28And I start having like full on baby kicks.

01:33I'm very naive.

01:35I've never had a steady period.

01:38Don't know anything about the birds and the bees.

01:40How old?

01:4216. 16.

9:46 AM 17. JUN. 20012:43 PM 14. JUN. 20017:23 PM 14. JUN. 20017:24 PM 14. JUN. 20015:41 PM12:23 PM

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Episode 7: The_Fall_S01E03_epis07

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00:39So now we have

01:19this wonderful little bundle of joy

04:89and Emil decides

06:39he's going to do the right thing by me

08:19and propose.

10:29He gave me his grandmother's ring.

12:69It was a one carat yellow diamond.

15:93Yoohoo!

18:39I think I was 17

19:69and Emil decided he wanted to go

21:89to the UK on a two-year working holiday visa.

25:49He was going to support us from over there,

27:29so he was going to send back money

29:19and we were still going to be in a relationship.

32:59I was pissed,

33:29but I just let him. It was just normal.

35:99Whenever he messed up,

38:39I just forgive him

39:89because he'd come back with all the right words

41:29all the time.

42:69And of course you want to hear he's sorry

44:19and he's not going to do it again and blah, blah, blah.

47:39Like when I was really angry

49:09and I was really done,

50:59then he would say sorry.

52:09And if his sorry didn't work, he would cry.

54:39Literal tears.

56:69And then I'd be like, oh,

58:59he really does care.

59:49He really does love me.

00:59Look, there's actual tears.

02:63Hi.

03:79Like, it's more mind games,

05:69or there'd be silent treatment,

07:59or he'll withhold affection.

10:29So he builds you up,

11:39breaks you down.

12:19Builds you up,

12:99breaks you down.

13:39Puts you down like a little toy

14:99when he's done, had his fun.

17:39You don't recognize it as control

18:99because he's not saying you're not doing that.

21:99You just know in the back of your head,

23:59you're not doing that

24:49because if you do, there's consequences.

Episode 8: The_Fall_S01E03_epis08

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00:00I think to a degree

02.11I looked up to him a little bit.

05.51Aside from me being younger,

08.01I also came from

09.31a very different background to him.

12.91His family was better off than we were,

14.31definitely.

15.81So he had me in a really good place

17.51because I came from a broken home.

19.71So all I ever wanted

21.11was to not be from a broken home.

24.01And uh he knew that.

26.41So he could pretty much do whatever he wanted.

30.71I was really mean to myself.

32.01Like I spoke to myself in a manner

33.61that I wouldn't speak to anyone else.

36.41What would you say?

37.01What do you mean?

37.71I was

40.51I don't know.

41.41I don't know how to put it into words.

46.01I just taking the blame.

49.71Feeling stupid, telling myself that

58.71worthless.

04.91I'd tell myself

07.41that I was worthless

09.41and I deserved

Episode 9: The_Fall_S01E03_epis09

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00:00I deserved the way he treated me.

00:05I think it's really interesting

00:07talking to Victoria

00:09and Nicoline in particular,

00:12because I understood.

00:13I understood what they were telling me.

00:15I could help to impart

00:17my experiences

00:19without them realizing it was my experiences.

00:22When you have the ups and downs

00:24of a controlling relationship,

00:27there are only so many times

00:28you can come back up.

00:30And I think each time

00:31you do come back up,

00:32it's not quite as high

00:33as the previous time.

00:34and eventually you find yourself in the trench

00:36and you can't quite claw your way

00:38back out of the trench again.

00:40Um, and once you're in that trench,

00:41it's a it's a really long way

00:43out again.

00:45And ultimately,

00:46it means

00:48you think very little of yourself

00:49by the end of it,

00:50is the reality.

00:51You have very low self-esteem.

00:53You think

00:55nobody could like me,

00:57nobody could want me.

00:59I'm worthless,

01:00I'm useless,

01:01I'm pointless.

01:02Absolutely.

01:03You come away from a relationship like that

01:04having to rebuild

01:06and refind yourself

01:09because you have been

01:11you have been

01:14pushed down to being

01:15a completely different person.

01:20I was studying for some economics exam

01:23and I felt the baby kick.

01:25I was like, shit.

01:26Again.

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00:17He was in the UK

00:98when I told him

02:13I was pregnant again.

04:07So I rang him up and said,

05:30look, I'm pregnant

06:67and it's yours.

08:60Um, and he was like,

09:38oh, that's great news.

10:49That's fantastic.

11:49And he sounded so happy.

14:59What are you doing?

15:10Emil didn't meet him

16:08for the first three months,

17:13I think it was.

19:39Give it, give it, give it, give it, give it.

22:59Give a kiss to papa.

23:29We made phone calls.

24:89We finished our calls with

26:42I love you and I miss you.

28:50And were you expecting at that point

29:70that Emil would

30:70come home to South Africa eventually?

33:50Yeah.

34:59Thank you.

36:32And not too long after that,

37:82his mom

38:92got in touch with me.

40:22She wanted to take me out for lunch.

41:72So, okay, cool.

43:52And then we go and she says,

45:82exact words,

47:22I'm sorry to have to tell you this,

49:12but Emil's got married.

52:02Not getting married,

53:22married.

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00:02How do you respond to that?

00:04I think I just went quiet and just

00:07shock.

00:10There were so many similarities

00:12between her relationship with Emile

00:14and Victoria's relationship with Emile.

00:17It was just the way he treated Nicoline,

00:20um, his behaviors towards her,

00:23his total lack of

00:25respect for her,

00:27his disregard for her feelings,

00:30um, his disinterest in his children

00:32once he'd decided he wanted to move on.

00:34And when he decided he wanted to move on,

00:37anything that got in his way

00:39became an inconvenience

00:41and he got rid of them.

00:44We were dancing

00:46in his parents' back garden.

00:48And um,

00:49he whispered in my ear

00:50that if I ever hurt him,

00:52he'd hurt me 10 times as much.

00:55I don't know what he meant,

00:56and I don't care to find out.

00.40But it was a threat.

01.40It was a clear threat.

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00:02I have to watch it all.

00:08Prime example of Emile's manipulation

00:11is during the trial.

00:12We found a series of YouTube

00:14uploads.

00:16He's professing his love for her.

00:18He's trying to control her.

00:19asking her to stand by him

00:22by singing the song Stand by Me,

00:24um, and various other songs

00:26where clearly there was messaging going on.

00:29It's clear what he's doing.

00:31He's trying to be clever.

00:32He's manipulating.

00:34He's sending her a message.

00:35Those YouTube clips,

00:37although they were cringeworthy,

00:39they were quite dark.

00:41Um, because he was definitely communicating

00:43with Victoria in those.

00:45So even though, you know,

00:47he's not allowed contact with her,

00:48he's not allowed to be with her,

00:50he's still seeking ways

00:52to get messages across to Vicky.

00:55I think that's quite frightening actually.

00:57183, take one.

08.60He always made me feel like I was the one,

11.20the important one.

14.20Relationships in the past,

15.80you know, they came and went,

16.80but I was the one

18.00that he'd been waiting for.

19.50I didn't want to burst that bubble.

21.50I didn't want to lose everything

23.00that I thought existed in our relationship.

26.50I missed what we had

28.50and what we had at times

30.30when he could be this dynamic,

32.00amazing, loving husband.

34.10I wanted my original husband back.

Episode 13: The_Fall_S01E03_epis13

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00:00So Vicky's at home

00:01looking after the kids.

00:03Emile's at the army barracks

00:04making his own plans for the evening.

00:08So it was time

00:09on the second trial

00:11to really show his true character.

00:13And to do that,

00:14we went back into the text messages.

00:18We got them chronologically listed

00:21and we listed everything.

00:23And ready, first action.

00:31This is three conversations he's got going on.

00:34Somebody he has sex with,

00:35his wife, and a sex worker.

00:38What comes through is what he wants is sex.

00:41With various women

00:42in various occasions at various times.

00:44And how he treats Vicky at the same time.

00:48He really does not care

00:50for Victoria by this time.

00:52She's messaging him saying, I need sleep.

00:55Each day getting harder.

00:57And his response is to message an escort

00:59saying, are you available today for one hour?

01:02To actually feel something,

01:05he needed to take a risk.

01:07It was sex without any protection.

01:09It was sometimes sex with

01:11him asking if he could film it.

01:13Most likely to film himself.

01:15So it was all about him.

01:16It was all about risk.

01:18It was all about his sexual needs.

01:28So on one occasion,

01:29after the parachute accident,

01:32Emile's going to visit his wife in intensive care.

01:39She's in bed.

01:39She's not got any visitors.

01:41She's on her own.

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Questions Viewers Ask

QWhat happened when the police came knocking?
QHow did a charming romance turn into a life-altering event?
QWhat secrets lie behind the 'glamorous' gestures?
QHow did a young girl's naivety lead to an unimaginable consequence?
QCan true love be built on manipulation?

About

Emile's retrial exposes 200 pages of texts, affairs, and deceit - but Victoria is still under his spell when she takes the stand.

survival storybetrayaltrue crime

Featured People

Speaker_AEmilePregnant Woman (likely Speaker_A)Woman with Baby (likely Speaker_A)

Locations

Indoor interview settingOutdoor park/fieldIndoor dining roomBedroom

Genre

True crimeDocumentaryDrama

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